Dumeril's size

topic posted Mon, July 11, 2005 - 5:10 PM by  Elliah
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I've been thinking about getting a Dumeril's boa, but everyone I talk to (and everything I read) tells me something different about how large they get. One person will tell me that they only get to about 5 feet, another will tell me females can get up to 10 feet. Any insight on the length, weight, etc. would be apprecieated.
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Elliah
Washington, D.C.
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  • Re: Dumeril's size

    Mon, July 11, 2005 - 6:49 PM
    I'm not sure how familiar you are with boids, so this may be stuff you already know ;) but a good hard and fast rule is that size estimates are exactly that. The "average" is around 6 feet or so, but generally with snakes, yes, females can top out at quite a bit more. 10 would most likely be quite the monster, though, and I doubt yours would get near that. It's certainly not likely to get as big as a common boa constrictor (aka red-tailed boa/south american boa/whatever) so if you're considering size this would be a good snake for a mid-range size. My experience with Dumeril's (which is far less than some other boids, I'll admit) is that, as a primarily ground-dwelling snake, they tend to be very heavy-bodied. So if you're considering dancing (cool pics btw ::grin::) with it, there may well come a time when it is VERY heavy.

    Hope this helps a bit - good luck on whatever you choose. If you decide to choose a different kind of snake, check out www.anapsid.org/mainsnakes.html - this is one of the best sites out there.
    • Re: Dumeril's size

      Tue, July 12, 2005 - 6:41 AM
      Am I that obvious, or are you just that good?

      My reptile experience is limited to turtles and iguanas, but I'm ready to make that leap. I have read that the average is 6 to 6 1/2 feet, but is that the maximum that most Dumeril's reach? Or does it mean something else? I just don't want to get a snake that I'm eventually not able to manage or have space for. I was interested in Dumeril's because they don't get to the size of Columbian/Red tailed boas, etc. I also think BRB are beautiful, but some people have not reccommended them for beginners. Hmmm...
      • Re: Dumeril's size

        Tue, July 12, 2005 - 10:13 AM
        Nah, you're not obvious - I've just been working with herps, particularly snakes, for a while :) and I'm always glad to help out when I can - so feel free to ask whatever ;)

        Again, yes, average should run around 6 to 6 1/2 (again, there are always odd balls that may run 8 to 10, but not like a red-tail) so that means that the max your snake SHOULD reach would be right around there. Most Dumeril's I've seen have been around that soyou should be good. Remember, though, it is going to get VERY heavy. If you are considering dancing with it, I would think that the weight would definately prove to be a problem down the line. (just something to keep in mind)

        Boids are sometimes hard for beginners. Size is a big issue, and of course handling - if you dont work with your snake, often people wind up with huge snakes that cannot be handled and are therefore 'throw aways' that they dump on zoos. Feedings an issue, too - your snake might graduate to eating small rabbits so you have to be prepared for that. Some boids have specific humidity requirements, too. I don't like to discourage anyone from anything ::grin:: and you've obviously done excellent homework. So, I'd think you'd be ok with any snake you choose. I'll have to doublecheck the humidity requirements on Dumerils but I believe its about the same as a red tail - not too difficult to maintain (my BRB doesnt really require too much specialness as far as thats concerned). Id be interested to know why people have discouraged you - most likely size - but a Dumerils would not be my suggestion for a beginner snake, either. Again, I think you'll be ok though. :)
        • Re: Dumeril's size

          Tue, July 12, 2005 - 10:32 AM
          People have mostly discouraged me from getting a Brazilian Rainbow Boa by saying that the humidity requirement would be hard to maintian for a beginner, and by saying that they often have poor disposition (like to bite). I have to say that I'm leaning more toward a BRB because of the size issue. I've also found a good BRB breeder, I think.
          • Re: Dumeril's size

            Tue, July 12, 2005 - 6:58 PM
            My Brazilian Rainbow Boa had the temperment of an angel. She is only a few months old so i was worried about it a little but I've had no problems waht so ever. my other girl is a Ball Python so i was worried a little about the humidity issue because I've never had to deal with it. It's realy no big deal. Cover most of the lid with some sort of plastic ( I used the stuff used for windows). And i got Zoo Med Cypress mulch which i have found holds the humidity VERY well. With a gauge it's easy to keep it around 70% humidity or a bit higher. I hope this helps a bit.
          • Re: Dumeril's size

            Wed, July 13, 2005 - 4:25 AM
            I'll agree that, for most people, this would not be a very good beginner snake (for some reason, I was thinking you were talking about red-tails - my brain is mush! so sorry for the red-tail info). But, again, you seem to have really done your homework, so I don't think you'll have too many problems. :) Randy's right - once you get into the swing of keeping the cage humid, you should do fine. Regular misting is good, as is keeping a fairly large water source. And, of course, damp mossy substrate (damp, not dripping wet or soaked) will definitely help.

            I just found a BEAUTIFUL adult BRB here in Sarasota that was very tempting. Her disposition was great and my attitude on that is handle, handle, handle - BRB can go either way, so if you get a baby and handle it, it should be fine. Even if you manage to find an adult if it's been handled and treated well, they often have great personalities.
  • Re: Dumeril's size

    Wed, July 13, 2005 - 10:56 PM
    One problem i had at first that's not reoccoured is mold. White mold will appear from time to time (happened a few times in the first month i had the setup). Just spot clean to get it out and you cool.
  • Re: Dumeril's size

    Thu, July 14, 2005 - 7:51 AM
    The girl at the pet store recommended not getting cypress mulch, and recommended aspen shaving (which I got for now). The boy at the pet store recommended a plastic hide box filled with sphagnum.

    Thoughts on substrates? And where do I get sphagnum moss anyway? (They didn't actually have it at the pet store.)
    • Re: Dumeril's size

      Thu, July 14, 2005 - 6:14 PM
      I've read that coconut husk shavings are very good as well. I've not seen them for sale anywhere. As for hide boxes i have just a peice of bark that you can buy at the store....Also a branch for her to slither on.
  • Re: Dumeril's size

    Sun, November 13, 2005 - 11:20 PM
    they can reach up to ten foot at maximum they r ok for a beginer snake tho being that they r pretty passive as compared to some of the boa types I have one she is a big teddy bear she likes to sleep under my pillow she seems to be done growing but she is at 10 1/2 foot at this time I think they r a pretty cool boa to have around but they r very wide body style they are pretty impresive in coloring too at least most I've seen though are not as big as mine they have an average 8 to 10 ft with females not sure on the males mine weighs about 40 pounds

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