Red Tail Boa tips?

topic posted Mon, March 14, 2005 - 3:25 PM by  randy
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I have a ball python and am in the proces sof getting a place set up for a red-tail boa. The 2 i have handled have had great dispositions and i have read that they get about 5-9 feet long. depending on male or female. Anyone out there have any tips as far as tank setups or anything at all. As far as i can tell they have almost identical needs as my ball python. any insider help would be great thank you.
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randy
New Hampshire
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  • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

    Mon, March 14, 2005 - 9:01 PM
    Hi Randy, I've had my red tail for about five years now and he's got a wonderful disposition. I've had a ball python in the past as well and my boas have all definitely been easier to feed.

    I actually built the tank for my red tail myself since I knew he would grow quite a bit (he was about 2 feet when I got him and is just over 6 feet now) and it's even expandable should I need to enlarge it in the future. I used plexiglass because I'd heard that it's safer for larger snakes because glass could potentially shatter and really injure them should they ever strike it. Then as you usually would for other snakes you should have a cool and a warm side of the tank and have a way to provide warmth. I use newspaper (not with colored ink) or butcher paper for substrata. One problem with larger snakes is that they can knock over their water dishes, so something that works well is to screw a plastic cat litter box into the bottom of the tank, then set another litter box into that for the water. Then they can even get into it to soak if they want without spilling water everywhere.

    Good luck!
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    Mon, March 14, 2005 - 9:02 PM
    I have a columbian boa...the kind they sell as a redtail..she is sweet and about 11 feet long. Likes her water tub and UP is a favorite thing.I keep her on orchid bark and a heat pad inside a cave for her to hang out in
  • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

    Mon, March 14, 2005 - 9:42 PM
    cool thanx for the input guys. i have heard a lot about most red tails in pet stores not really being red tails. i want an honest bred red tail though, mostly because of their size. i want something that's going to be around jade's size (my ball). 11 feet is a lot of snake in my opinion but i guess if it's friendly then it doesn't matter much. thank you for your knowledge and tips guys. i have a 75 gallon that jade is gong to be moved into and the 35 she is in now will be the first home to my new snake. maybe i'll consider buliding the big one for my future boa....good idea and way less money i bet.
    • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

      Wed, March 30, 2005 - 1:02 PM
      Actually, building a great tank can cost as much or more than buying a pre-made. It all depends on what you want for your snake, and what your snake prefers.

      Both my boa and my ball were rescues and rehabs that I have kept (horrible, aweful original owners).

      Sage, my red-tail (is a true red ;) ) prefers to curl in the bottom corner of the tank, so shallow for him is best. Use the tank you have and offer high and low places and see which yours prefers. Then when you build a tank, you can customize it to fit your snakes preference.
      Sage also hates hiding places and avoids them at all costs. He was that way when I rescued him.
      When I worked at the Herp store all the other boas like hiding places, so definately offer one.
      He will be 4 this summer and is about 5 1/2 feet and a hearty eater.
      He is trained to know when the tank is cleared and the white bags appear that he is getting fed.
      Because he is a rehab his demeanor is not as docile as other Red's I have had in the past, but he is still calm...just not good in groups of people. All of the other boas I have had or rehabbed (7 of them) have been wonderful to have.
      However, I would reconcile myself with the fact that your boa *will* be larger than your ball, even at it's smallest growth a red is, in general, larger than a ball at it's largest growth. There are always exceptions but it is rare.

      For climbing, bleached, solid driftwood is awesome. There are not a whole lot of splinters to worry about. Anything you bring home you should bake in the oven at 275 for at least an hour. It was a trick I learned at the store. We soaked rocks, plastic/clay tank materails in a diluted bleach solution and then ran them through the dishwasher without soap on the heat dry cycle.

      I use terry cloth towels as a substrate. I run them through the wash with bleach, then wash it in just hot water, then dry it on high. Fully sanitary and reusable.

      I have never had an issue with Goldie (my ball) eating. Even when I first rescued her. She is actually one of the most amazing ball's I have ever seen/owned. She is so docile there are times she doesn't even squeeze her food, just gulp it down.

  • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

    Sun, July 23, 2006 - 1:29 PM
    I didn't realize that people sell red-tailed boas when they aren't true red-tails. Is there a way you can tell your getting the real thing? I am not sure what they are really selling if it's not a true red-tail. As soon as my birds sell, I'm getting a red-tail and I want to come forarmed with knowledge of what I'm actually getting.
    • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

      Tue, July 25, 2006 - 4:46 PM
      If you purchase a Boa from a pet store more than likely what you will be getting is the BCI, or common boa. They are by far more common in the pet trade then any other subspecies of Boa Constrictor. Sometimes they will call these Red Tails or Columbian Red Tails.

      People who sell "True Red Tails" will usually refer to them that way occasionaly using a locality name like Surinam Red Tail and or BCC (Boa Constrictor Constrictor) and they usually charge quite a bit more for them.

      Beyond that they are extremely difficult to tell apart by just looking at them and since the ranges of the two snakes overlap and they can and do interbreed there exist many intergrades.

      In general the BCC is a bit more difficult to keep then the BCI. The BCC is quite a bit bigger and some feeding problems may exist.
      • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

        Tue, July 25, 2006 - 5:33 PM
        I've been doing research and I think I prefer the BCI anyway so that works out for me lol. Columbian RTB was what I had before and he was a gentle beauty. Unfortunately at the time I lived in a foster home and the health dept made me get rid of him. There were other children there too. I just cant wait until I can purchase another one. I miss having a snake.
        • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

          Mon, August 14, 2006 - 6:28 PM
          wow thsi thread is still going huh. I have since gotten a Brazillian Rainbow Boa and named her Nyoka. She is an absolute beauty I have to say. I have some pic posted and will post a few more later on.
          • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

            Tue, September 19, 2006 - 5:51 AM
            I just purchased a red tail boa this weekend....thanks Maya for the info on the snakes tribe....I hope mine is a red tail/BCC It has red saddles on its tale....Loved the new pics of your baby Randy!

            Wow....that is great that some of you have built your own cages....very amazing...I am learning a lot.....mine is just a juvenile but I know I have to plan ahead with how large these snakes get....I purchased a male on purpose since I heard that they dont get as large as the females....is that right?
            • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

              Tue, September 19, 2006 - 10:22 AM
              That is right, males are usually smaller than females...but do consider that you could always have gotten yourself a large male. I'm also hoping for a male, for similiar reasons, but since I'm going to be building a cage for it anyway, I can always go bigger lol!
              • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

                Tue, September 19, 2006 - 10:28 AM
                Ya...after seeing how much some of those larger cages cost I might just figure out how to build him (no name yet) a cage too.....I have a year to figure it out...you have all inspired me! Thanks....
                • Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

                  Tue, September 19, 2006 - 11:24 AM
                  I know those prices are robbery! Lol! That's why I think most build their own.
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                    Re: Red Tail Boa tips?

                    Mon, January 8, 2007 - 9:53 AM
                    My girlfriend and I took over the care of a 7ft Columbian Red Tail Boa a few months ago. Her old owners had not anticipated her growth potential correctly and were keeping her in a 30 gallon tank (which she filled half of completely coiled). We built her a new tank out of a TV cabinet about 2.5' deep X 3.5' wide X 4.5' tall. The back opening for all the cords was covered with 1" X 1" steel fencing and then insulated later with layered aluminum insulating material (the temp became unstable in the winter evenings). The front door panels were removed and replaced with 1/4" screen and then lined with clear vinyl to keep humidity in. Her humidity has been the real problem, and I am wondering if anyone has suggestions about ways to raise humidity on the scale of a tank that size. Right now, we have a flat panel heater under her soaking dish, but the humidity at the top of the tank rarely gets above 20%. I plan on getting more humidity guages when finances permit, but I would like to see a more uniform 50% throughout the tank. On the list for modifications in the near future is a cave (drilling a hole down to the lower "vcr" shelf) and climbing poles (some bamboo poles for her to hang around on). Any help would be appreciated!

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